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Post by theexecuter on Apr 29, 2017 15:58:54 GMT -6
We could start our own version of this...
It's a good idea.
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Post by boomboomf22 on Apr 29, 2017 17:07:48 GMT -6
I would... But for the previously mentioned lack of proper interwebs
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Post by williammiller on Apr 29, 2017 17:11:41 GMT -6
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Post by babylon218 on Apr 29, 2017 18:19:29 GMT -6
If you guys want to start a new thread, I'll be available (and interested) next week.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2017 18:21:03 GMT -6
skwabie you rules lawyering **** people were having fun and enjoying his casual approach. And now you have killed it. Incidentally the point of a pm is that it is private. the game host thinks he is **** (whatever dirty word being censored but guess, same to urs btw) about this and is "milking" you. he even admits this being a mind game to begin with. and you STILL wanna continue? casual approach. you're being taken advantage of and still able to remain casual. wow. pm doesn't mean one forego basic respect to others. edit: it's not like we were having a argument throwing insults back and forth in the pm. it was entirely very friendly conversation up to that point and then it just came outta nowhere. if it were the former case i certainly wouldn't blow up on public fora as that would be personal matters.
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Post by theexecuter on Apr 29, 2017 21:02:36 GMT -6
skwabie you rules lawyering **** people were having fun and enjoying his casual approach. And now you have killed it. Incidentally the point of a pm is that it is private. the game host thinks he is **** (whatever dirty word being censored but guess, same to urs btw) about this and is "milking" you. he even admits this being a mind game to begin with. and you STILL wanna continue? casual approach. you're being taken advantage of and still able to remain casual. wow. Yup. We still want to continue. Because it is fun. Because losing isn't a big deal. Because the points are made up...and the scores don't matter. No one is going to die if our designs suck. No one is going to go hungry because the Naval Board didn't pick their design. If the host doesn't want to continue because he isn't having fun, that's fine. If I want to continue because I'm having fun, that's on me.
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Post by srndacful on Apr 29, 2017 21:17:15 GMT -6
Thank you for the support, folks.
IMHO, this is mostly my fault, anyways: I remembered too late that skwabie reacts poorly to jokes of this kind (as seen in one of the previous posts on this thread) and so my joke ('cause I constructed it as such - at least IMHO - it might even really be in a poor taste as far as I know) went out and caused all this trouble.
And (while risking boring you with yet another iteration of it) I'd really like this to continue (even without me) so if anyone's interested in taking over as Admiralty (or staying under skwabie's 'command') I'll gladly provide as much support 'behind the scenes' as I can.
Cheers!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2017 21:26:34 GMT -6
Yup. We still want to continue. Because it is fun. Because losing isn't a big deal. Because the points are made up...and the scores don't matter. No one is going to die if our designs suck. No one is going to go hungry because the Naval Board didn't pick their design. If the host doesn't want to continue because he isn't having fun, that's fine. If I want to continue because I'm having fun, that's on me. nobody really cares about the points or whatever. note i was the 1st to reply in this thread and personally i really think it is good initiative. however, the side effect of this game is the host is put on a pedestal and pandered to his personal preferences by all others. if the game host is humble and modest (with good logical thinking) that's great, he tries to delete this side effect, in the spirit of a good nice game. - but in this case it is not but the opposite. you can certainly continue if you enjoy feeding someone else's ego on an internet forum no less. or if you see it another way or don't care that is ofc your right. for me i am shocked and disgusted. good luck.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2017 21:34:51 GMT -6
anyways: I remembered too late that skwabie reacts poorly to jokes of this kind (as seen in one of the previous posts on this thread) and so my joke ('cause I constructed it as such - at least IMHO - it might even really be in a poor taste as far as I know) went out and caused all this trouble. " I'm still kinda surprised this got as much crowd as it did. I kinda guess they're humoring me, but I'm planning on being a **** and milking them for all they're worth anyway ... " this whole thread, with everybody spending good effort on it, just seems like a big joke, isn't it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2017 21:47:51 GMT -6
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Post by theexecuter on Apr 29, 2017 21:48:32 GMT -6
Yup. We still want to continue. Because it is fun. Because losing isn't a big deal. Because the points are made up...and the scores don't matter. No one is going to die if our designs suck. No one is going to go hungry because the Naval Board didn't pick their design. If the host doesn't want to continue because he isn't having fun, that's fine. If I want to continue because I'm having fun, that's on me. nobody really cares about the points or whatever. note i was the 1st to reply in this thread and personally i really think it is good initiative. however, the side effect of this game is the host is put on a pedestal and pandered to his personal preferences by all others. if the game host is humble and modest (with good logical thinking) that's great, he tries to delete this side effect, in the spirit of a good nice game. - but in this case it is not but the opposite. you can certainly continue if you enjoy feeding someone else's ego on an internet forum no less. or if you see it another way or don't care that is ofc your right. for me i am shocked and disgusted. good luck. You do realize that's how these threads work, don't you? It's mostly about the author and the story he wants to tell. To put it into RPG terms, he is the game master. You, the player, don't get to determine the rules of the game. So stop trying. I'll even broaden the field of this discussion. Anytime an author puts out a work on this forum, he is expending a large amount of effort and time gratis, for someone else's enjoyment. The least we can do is let him know, through our engagement and interaction, that we enjoy his work. That ego feeding is a GOOD THING. It keeps forums like these alive and keeps new and interesting stories being told. If you don't like this story, be silent. Silence is the worst response to a story in this format.
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Post by srndacful on Apr 29, 2017 21:54:39 GMT -6
the host is put on a pedestal and pandered to his personal preferences by all others. This was the part where I would go full "huh?" if I didn't know about skwabie's tongue-in-cheek joke phobia: (although, IMHO, he makes a good one, here, himself - although unintentionally, I'm sure) To date there has been a grand total of ONE Design I picked that fully stacked with my own design 'philosophy'. The closest one to come to it was, ironically enough, skwabie. But then, again, this was, IMHO, the entire point of the game: see all the different Designs, and how they perform in actual combat. Looking back on it, though, I kinda see I failed in that regard: while all the Designs were different (and I went to great lengths to keep them that way) their effect on combat can't really be seen from just a couple of screens ... something for the future Admiralty (if there is one) to keep in mind. For myself, I'm truly sorry someone put such a scar on you, skwabie, to make you so sensitive.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2017 22:16:13 GMT -6
You do realize that's how these threads work, don't you? It's mostly about the author and the story he wants to tell. To put it into RPG terms, he is the game master. You, the player, don't get to determine the rules of the game. So stop trying. I'll even broaden the field of this discussion. Anytime an author puts out a work on this forum, he is expending a large amount of effort and time gratis, for someone else's enjoyment. The least we can do is let him know, through our engagement and interaction, that we enjoy his work. That ego feeding is a GOOD THING. It keeps forums like these alive and keeps new and interesting stories being told. If you don't like this story, be silent. Silence is the worst response to a story in this format. if this is a straight up AAR then certainly yes, but this involves significant effort from everybody involved. it is far from a simple thank you good job nice read. and, maybe you're getting enjoyment outta the AAR part, but i'd say there are far more better AARs in this forum. in this case the AAR is written by everyone involved in the game, for non-participants of the game to read. - however given the low activity on this forum, in a way this has become a simple framework for one forum member to gather other members' work (edit: which is why the designers can be "milked", now), and judge them. the game host puts in the most work, ofc, but that doesn't give anybody the right to judge others' without a good enough reason. everyone is putting time in for the good of the game, without material returns as you mentioned. - now, if the game host is aware of this and tries to avoid the problem that's all great. again, what's happening here is the opposite case.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2017 22:20:08 GMT -6
For myself, I'm truly sorry someone put such a scar on you, skwabie, to make you so sensitive. i tend to take things i do seriously. this is to the contrast of someone who not only thinks his own effort is a joke, but pulls other ppl into this joke, and laugh at them in the back in the process...
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Post by konstantinua00 on Apr 29, 2017 22:28:15 GMT -6
So... I was out of focus for a day or two and we're already go fully bad-word at each other and closing the first (!) forum game here... Can anyone explain what had happened?
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