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Post by wlbjork on May 15, 2023 12:37:22 GMT -6
Also, does anybody know what's the status of the various Missile Boats? Can they be built in RtW3? For reference: I'm talking about 200 to 300 ton ship with top speed of about 35 to 40 knots, no armour, perhaps a 2 or 3 inch gun and 4 to 8 SSMs. Edit: so, that one's obviously a no. It would require major weight reduction on top of what is available as of RTW2. A 30kn 200t DD can only just mount a 3" gun, Advanced Director fire control system and a single torpedo (without also adding cramped, short range, speed etc.) Highly unlikely.
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Post by skyhawk on May 15, 2023 12:48:28 GMT -6
Also, does anybody know what's the status of the various Missile Boats? Can they be built in RtW3? For reference: I'm talking about 200 to 300 ton ship with top speed of about 35 to 40 knots, no armour, perhaps a 2 or 3 inch gun and 4 to 8 SSMs. Edit: so, that one's obviously a no. It would require major weight reduction on top of what is available as of RTW2. A 30kn 200t DD can only just mount a 3" gun, Advanced Director fire control system and a single torpedo (without also adding cramped, short range, speed etc.) Highly unlikely. Yeah the weight scale breaks down a bit at the lowest levels. I don't expect to be able to design vessels that small capable of anything more than pedestrian speeds for mine sweeping or ASW. I'm gonna assume small vessels at 30+ knot speeds are going to require 500 or so tons to make useful...if they can be made at all. That certainly is the case in RTW2. I look forward to trying though!
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Post by skyhawk on May 19, 2023 17:31:55 GMT -6
So. After dinking around with an AH 1890s start to see what there is to see I hopped over the Adriatic for an Italian 1930s start so that I could stumble my way into the missile age as quickly as possible. I've so far kept the wars to a minimum since I just want to see what tech does and to play around with the builder.
Once I acquired my first SSMs I immediately tried slapping them on a KE. Sadly it doesn't currently work but only because I haven't researched Missile Corvettes...so it is possible. Just not immediately.
Instead i've been building a bunch of 1000-1200t DDs with the maximum number of missiles. TT are still required through my current year(1955) and i'm not sure the requirement for them will ever get removed but dropping down to a single launcher doesn't take up that much space. Keeping gun armament to a single small caliber DP mount and the best radar available i've progressively made better and better armed missile boats. My current iteration, the Nembo class, is a 1100t 33knt Diesel absurdity. 1-5" DP auto mount and a single radar directed MAA constitute the entire ballistic armament. A single aft mounted swivel TT with a wire guided acoustic ASW capable torpedo is its only ASW weapon and level 5 radar helps it spot and guide its 8 H-SSMs.
I look forward to seeing how it and my other small fry do in combat alongside my larger multi-role DDs in the 3000+ ton ranges.
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Post by skyhawk on May 20, 2023 22:48:36 GMT -6
Well i've not developed the promised "missile corvette" technology yet but I can put missiles on KE now. Sadly they're still stuck with the classic KE speed limit. This version is short ranged and focused on mine sweeping as a full modern ASW suite is more than this little thing can manage. If it is run into by a surface unit it'll be able to hit far above its weight class though. I've got SSM Boats and Shore Missile Batteries instead of Motor Torpedo Boats and Gun Batteries now too so good luck running in against my shoreline at night guys.
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Post by seawolf on May 21, 2023 0:36:41 GMT -6
Well i've not developed the promised "missile corvette" technology yet but I can put missiles on KE now. Sadly they're still stuck with the classic KE speed limit. This version is short ranged and focused on mine sweeping as a full modern ASW suite is more than this little thing can manage. If it is run into by a surface unit it'll be able to hit far above its weight class though. I've got SSM Boats and Shore Missile Batteries instead of Motor Torpedo Boats and Gun Batteries now too so good luck running in against my shoreline at night guys. View AttachmentThe classic KE speed limit is 23 knots, no? There should be no limit with SSMs or SAMs on board
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Post by blarglol on May 21, 2023 9:22:09 GMT -6
Well i've not developed the promised "missile corvette" technology yet but I can put missiles on KE now. Sadly they're still stuck with the classic KE speed limit. This version is short ranged and focused on mine sweeping as a full modern ASW suite is more than this little thing can manage. If it is run into by a surface unit it'll be able to hit far above its weight class though. I've got SSM Boats and Shore Missile Batteries instead of Motor Torpedo Boats and Gun Batteries now too so good luck running in against my shoreline at night guys. View AttachmentThe classic KE speed limit is 23 knots, no? There should be no limit with SSMs or SAMs on board It's always told me 24kt.
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Post by srndacful on May 21, 2023 10:13:02 GMT -6
... I've got SSM Boats and Shore Missile Batteries instead of Motor Torpedo Boats and Gun Batteries now too so good luck running in against my shoreline at night guys. Can you provide an account as to how they're working out for you thus far?
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Post by skyhawk on May 21, 2023 10:33:40 GMT -6
... I've got SSM Boats and Shore Missile Batteries instead of Motor Torpedo Boats and Gun Batteries now too so good luck running in against my shoreline at night guys. Can you provide an account as to how they're working out for you thus far? I've not gotten into a war since I developed these techs. In fact the whole world has maintained a 20+ year arms treaty...since before missile tech was developed in fact. So no one actually has any experience using them. That treaty JUST ended when Russia threw a fit about it and got it scrapped so I expect someone to start a war within the next year. The same month the treaty ended I developed M-SSMs so I'm tinkering with those now...especially since my government immediately wanted like 20 more DD built. I'll update on my small fry when I get a war.
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